Issue With EVO 2019 Recipe Conversion = HUGE L$ Loss

Originally, this was a notecard made for sharing in SL.

Now it's here in my fucking blog for everyone to see because of accountability...

There was supposed to be an EVO event today with a Q&A session where unfortunately none of the admins showed... I questioned it in nearby chat to the innocent event host, and the EVO group... KhrysT then postponed it to an hour later... Then he said he didn't feel well and postponed it to the next day... So fine...

I'm a bit out of patience with everything I have experienced from the business end of EVO (at least from KhrysT's unprofessional mannerisms on the whole of 2 years)... So here it is...

BTW, I have been muted in group chat, and breeders have been intimidated.

For as much money as I have spent on EVO, I deserve respect.

Any customer deserves respect.
"The customer is always right."

"Give me your money so I can treat you like shit because I have power over you," is never cool (...I mean, unless you're into that kind of masochism...)

That is also why this is here.

I just found out about all this today.

I thought it was just "usual" updates.  But things have slowly snowballed into more and more peculiar things.  HUBs are gone and very dedicated people have given away or sold all their EVO things and LEFT.  I couldn't get a recipe or pearl box to generate for a few months now (when they do, even if your fairies are deco).  The miscommunication and back and forth between trying to update the Halloween City took almost a month (I know some ppl who have had the same Ysra/City for years because they like the style, with no complaints).  Tickets no longer get forwarded to your email, so you can "conveniently" lose track if they think you are stupid and just close the ticket without you knowing.  Some shit about fairies not being in eSpheres for 8 months, despite complaints (thank gawd I never got into that part of EVO too).  And now, out of nowhere, old recipes will become null and void after 12APR19.

If you are involved in EVO and wondering WTF is going on... you are entitled to know what you are investing (or possibly dumping) your money into.

Greetings,

This is the math I have just done to figure out what it will cost me as a store owner that sells/supports EVO breedables, to do all these recipes myself (instead of selling the actual recipes) for any profit whatsoever, before the 2019 recipe conversion deadline (where all recipes from before 2019 will be null and void as of 12APR19, according to EVO administrator, KhrysT Lords (khryst.neox)).

I've been informed on the down low that the conversion is happening because of copyright and a couple EVO administrators/creators taking their creative integrity to separate ventures.

I've been playing since about a couple months before October of 2017...

This is my first recorded chat log in the group:

[2017/10/19 22:38]  MajikVixen (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): Hey... so my fairies just reached age 7 ... how do I know what an egg looks like to click it?  Do they appear in one spot usually, or all over the city?

To know which EVO group I am talking about, copy/paste this into nearby chat for a clickable link: 

secondlife:///app/group/e205dbfb-6d8f-aaa1-d8b5-a14d4776862c/about

This is EVO's website:

https://www.evosl.com/#intro

This is my store: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/stores/181088

...I rely very heavily on that store income for any fun whatsoever in SL, as RL money situations have led me to do unfortunate things like go from a whole HS sim to a temporary parcel.

I spent countless hours gathering data/information/prices + boxing all this stuff up, to now realizing just how devastating this 2019 update / recipe conversion now is...

Here is your proof/math, of everything left in my MP inventory, plus all the prices, all laid/spelled out for you to see why I am so greatly concerned (just for starters)...

•x4 (@ L$500 ea. = L$2,000) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - Halloween Wand Recipe Ver.2017 - WANDS ARE NO XFR, SO DOING THIS RECIPE IS A LOSS

•x2 (@ L$75 ea. = L$150) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - Easter Candy Cryptex #01 - SUPPOSEDLY CRYPTEX DON'T WORK ANYMORE, LOSS?

•x1 (@ L$75 ea.) EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - Easter Choco Cryptex #01 - SUPPOSEDLY CRYPTEX DON'T WORK ANYMORE, LOSS?

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$2,225


•x5 (@ L$76 ea. = L$380) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - #0433 HUB1 Maginum Fairy Recipe
10 HUB1 Token (L$23) L$230
5 Gathering Badge (L$36) L$180
50 Golden Pearl (L$14) L$700
100 Horn (L$10) L$1,000
100 Apple (L$4) L$400
100 Compass (L$8) L$800
100 Celtic Shield (L$3) L$300
100 Mushroom (L$5) L$500
L$4,110 = Total cost to make, when these fairies are selling for L$100 @ HUB4, L$500 on MP, & L$800 on MP, L$600 @ HUB11 ~ L$500 23OCT18

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$3,610 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE INTO A FAIRY, FOR THE 5 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$18,050, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$20,275


•x1 (@ L$90 ea.) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - #0434 HUB2 Mary Jane Recipe
10 HUB2 Token (L$23) L$230
5 Gathering Badge (L$36) L$180
50 Golden Pearl (L$14) L$700
100 Horn (L$10) L$1,000
100 Apple (L$4) L$400
100 Compass (L$8) L$800
100 Celtic Shield (L$3) L$300
100 Mushroom (L$5) L$500
L$4,110 = Total cost to make, when these fairies are selling for much less inworld (no documentation of how much this sells for, I'm going to be fair and guess L$700)

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$3,410 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE INTO A FAIRY, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$23,685


•x14 (@ L$90 ea.) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - #0439 HUB7 Fawn Fairy Recipe
10 HUB7 Token (L$20) L$200
5 Gathering Badge (L$36) L$180
50 Golden Pearl (L$14) L$700
100 Horn (L$10) L$1,000
100 Apple (L$4) L$400
100 Compass (L$8) L$800
100 Celtic Shield (L$3) L$300
100 Mushroom (L$5) L$500
L$4,080 = Total cost to make, when these fairies are selling for L$100 @ HUB4, L$1,000 @ HUB5 ~ L$550 23OCT18

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$3,530 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE INTO A FAIRY, FOR THE 14 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$49,420, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$73,105


•x9 (@ L$143 ea. = L$1,287) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - #0440 HUB8 Saeftinge Fairy Recipe
10 HUB8 Token (L$31) L$310
5 Gathering Badge (L$36) L$180
50 Golden Pearl (L$14) L$700
100 Horn (L$10) L$1,000
100 Apple (L$4) L$400
100 Compass (L$8) L$800
100 Celtic Shield (L$3) L$300
100 Mushroom (L$5) L$500
L$4,190 = Total cost to make, when these fairies are selling for L$100 @ HUB4, L$500 on MP, & L$1,200 on MP ~ L$600 23OCT18

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$3,590 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE INTO A FAIRY, FOR THE 9 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$32,310, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$105,415


•x4 (@ L$128 ea. = L$512) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - #0514 HUB10 Angel Fae Recipe
10 HUB10 Token (L$30)  L$300
5 Gathering Badge (L$36) L$180
50 Golden Pearl (L$14) L$700
100 Horn (L$10) L$1,000
100 Apple (L$4) L$400
100 Compass (L$8) L$800
100 Celtic Shield (L$3) L$300
100 Mushroom (L$5) L$500
L$3,550 = Total cost to make, when these fairies are selling for L$1,500 @ HUB5 22OCT18

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$2,050 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE INTO A FAIRY, FOR THE 4 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$8,200, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$113,615


•x9 (@ L$109 ea. = L$981) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - #0583 HUB3 Faerie Haven Recipe
10 HUB3 Token (L$30) L$300
5 Gathering Badge (L$36) L$180
50 Golden Pearl (L$14) L$700
100 Horn (L$10) L$1,000
100 Apple (L$4) L$400
100 Compass (L$8) L$800
100 Celtic Shield (L$3) L$300
100 Mushroom (L$5) L$500
L$4,180 = Total cost to make, when these fairies are selling for L$1,200 on MP, L$1,250 @ HUB5, L$899 @ HUB11 ~ L$1,116 23OCT18

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$3,064 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE INTO A FAIRY, FOR THE 9 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$27,576, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$141,191


•x5 (@ L$215 ea. = L$1,075) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - #0584 HUB4 Vampireyes Recipe
10 HUB4 Token (L$23) L$230
5 Gathering Badge (L$36) L$180
50 Golden Pearl (L$14) L$700
100 Horn (L$10) L$1,000
100 Apple (L$4) L$400
100 Compass (L$8) L$800
100 Celtic Shield (L$3) L$300
100 Mushroom (L$5) L$500
L$4,110 = Total cost to make, when these fairies are selling for L$100 @ HUB4, & L$1,200 on MP, L$650 @ HUB11 ~ L$650 23OCT18

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$3,460 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE INTO A FAIRY, FOR THE 5 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$17,300, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$158,491


•x6 (@ L$115 ea. = L$690) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - #0585 HUB5 Serenity Cove Recipe
10 HUB5 Token (L$30) L$300
5 Gathering Badge (L$36) L$180
50 Golden Pearl (L$14) L$700
100 Horn (L$10) L$1,000
100 Apple (L$4) L$400
100 Compass (L$8) L$800
100 Celtic Shield (L$3) L$300
100 Mushroom (L$5) L$500
L$4,180 = Total cost to make, when these fairies are selling for much less inworld (no documentation of how much this sells for, I'm going to be fair and guess L$700)

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$3,480 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE INTO A FAIRY, FOR THE 6 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$20,880, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$179,371


•x3 (@ L$67 ea. = L$201) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - Black Pearls Alchemy
20 T2 Black Pearl (@ L$4 ea.) = sacrifice L$80 for 10 Golden Pearls (@ L$14 ea.) = L$140 (so you will only end up making L$60) or recipe will sell for L$67 ea.
23OCT18

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$7 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE, FOR THE 3 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$21, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$179,392


•x3 (@ L$75 ea. = L$225) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - Blue Pearls Alchemy
30 T2 Blue Pearl (@ L$3 ea.) = sacrifice L$90 for 10 Golden Pearls (@ L$14 ea.) = L$140 (so you will only end up making L$50) or recipe will sell for L$75 ea.
23OCT18

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$25 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE, FOR THE 3 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$75, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$179,467


•x5 (@ L$72 ea. = L$360) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - Red Pearls Alchemy
50 T2 Red Pearl (@ L$20 ea.) = sacrifice L$1,000 for 10 Golden Pearls (@ L$14 ea.) = L$140 (so you will end up losing L$860) or recipe will sell for L$72 ea.
23OCT18

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$860 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE, FOR THE 5 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$4,300, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$183,767


•x3 (@ L$81 ea. = L$243) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - White Pearls Alchemy
80 T2 White Pearl - L$2 (@ L$2 ea.) = sacrifice L$160 for 10 Golden Pearls (@ L$14 ea.) = L$140 (so you will end up losing L$20) or recipe will sell for L$81 ea.
23OCT18

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$20 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE, FOR THE 3 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$60, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$183,827


•x3 (@ L$700 ea. = L$2,100) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - Halloween Candy Recipe Ver.2017
100 Pumpkin (L$23) L$2,300
10 Golden Pearl (L$14) L$140
50 Horn (L$10) L$500
150 Apple (L$4) L$600
50 Compass (L$8) L$400
100 Celtic Shield (L$3) L$300
100 Mushroom (L$5) L$500
L$4,740 = Total cost to make
Possible fairies (a chance of 1-3 different faes) you get are worth:
•EVO*MC Fairy - #0777 Zombie Nun (Mythical) Ver. 2017 (no documentation of how much this sells for, I'm going to be fair and guess L$1,000)
•EVO*MC Fairy - #0778 Black Swan (Mythical) (currently selling for L$1,200 on MP 23OCT18)
•EVO*MC Fairy - #0779 Creepy Doll (Mythical) Ver. 2017 (currently selling for L$1,200 on MP 23MAR19)
L$3,400 total value, 1/3 chance = ~ L$1,133 value

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$3,607 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE, FOR THE 3 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$10,821, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$194,648


•x5 (@ L$200 ea. = L$1,000) = EVO Breeding Co. Supplies - Uranus Recipe
25 Red Crystal ($L78) L$1,950
15 Seashell of Ysgar (L$18) L$270
25 Dress (L$27) L$675
10 Message Bottle (L$30) L$300
25 Compass (L$8) L$200
25 Uranus Artifact (L$10) L$250
75 Ginger Root (L$10) L$750
L$4,395 = Total cost to make for #972-Calibanus Fairy (no documentation of how much this sells for, I'm going to be fair and guess L$800)

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF L$3,595 FOR THIS RECIPE TO MAKE, FOR THE 5 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$17,975, AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$212,623


This information does not even include the "old" (not 2019) recipes, that I recently got, currently sitting in my inventory because I haven't had a chance to price/list them yet:
•EVO*MC Fairies - Candyland Recipe Ver.2018
•EVO*MC Fairies - Emony Recipe Ver.2018
•EVO*MC Fairies - Mercurian Recipe Ver.2018
•EVO*MC Fairies - Tau Hou Recipe Ver.2018
•(All prices of recipes in question - L$500 + L$75 + L$75 + L$76 + L$90 + L$90 + L$143 + L$128 + L$109 + L$215 + L$115 + L$67 + L$75 + L$72 + L$81 + L$700 + L$200 / 17 different types of recipes in limbo) = ~ L$165 x 4 number of recipes still in inventory = L$660 AVERAGE COST OF STORE RECIPE SALE LOSS
•(All average outcome prices of rewards from recipe fulfillment - L$700 + L$550 + L$600 + L$1,500 + L$1,116 + L$650 + L$700 + L$80 + L$90 + L$1,000 + L$160 + L$1,133 + L$4,395 / 17 different types of recipes in limbo) = ~ L$746 AVERAGE PRIZE VALUE
•(All average cost to do recipes - L$500 + L$75 + L$75 + L$4,110 + L$4,110 + L$4,080 + L$4,190 + L$3,550 + L$4,180 + L$4,110 + L$4,180 + L$80 + L$90 + L$1,000 + L$160 + L$4,740 + L$4,395 / 17 different types of recipes in limbo) = ~ L$2,566 AVERAGE COST TO DO RECIPES

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A LOSS OF  L$1,820 TO MAKE EACH INDIVIDUAL RECIPE (ON AVERAGE), FOR THE 4 RECIPES I HAVE IT'S A TOTAL OF L$7,280 (ON AVERAGE), AND A RUNNING TOTAL NOW OF L$219,903


If I were to not sell any of these items and not fill them, my store would lose:
Halloween Wand Recipe L$500 (x4) = L$2,000
Easter Candy Cryptex L$75 (x2) = L$150
Easter Choco Cryptex L$75 (x1) = L$75
HUB1 Maginum Fairy Recipe L$76 (x5) = L$380
HUB2 Mary Jane Recipe L$90 (x1) = L$90
HUB7 Fawn Fairy Recipe L$90 (x14) = L$1,260
HUB8 Saeftinge Fairy Recipe L$143 (x9) = L$1,287
HUB10 Angel Fae Recipe L$128 (x4) = L$512
HUB3 Faerie Haven Recipe L$109 (x9) = L$981
HUB4 Vampireyes Recipe L$215 (x5) = L$1,075
HUB5 Serenity Cove Recipe L$115 (x6) = L$690
Black Pearls Alchemy L$7 (x3) = L$21
Blue Pearls Alchemy L$75 (x3) = L$225
Red Pearls Alchemy L$72 (x5) = L$360
White Pearls Alchemy L$81 (x3) = L$243
Halloween Candy Recipe L$700 (x3) = L$2,100
Uranus Recipe L$200 (x5) = L$1,000
Average cost of recipes still in inventory L$660 (x4) = L$2,640
TOTAL STORE SALE LOSS = L$15,089

SO THIS FINAL TOTAL OF MY COMPLETE AND TOTAL LOSS IS L$234,992.  This is about $905-942 USD 26MAR19.  This is the cost of a vehicle or rent in RL.  This is about the cost of 1,958 months (163 years!) of tier for my whole Zamargad sim (that I miss very, very much).  ...This is insane and ludicrous, to say the least.

Now, don't get me wrong, I have had a LOT of fun at the events, and with everyone in chat.  All the breeders are phenomenally nice and outstanding people!  But now we must ask ourselves what the cost of this friendliness and support is actually worth, especially under these circumstances.

I am sure you will all be very interested to see how the new administrators of EVO will address this issue.  It will give you an understanding of the new integrity, customer service rapport, and business professionalism going forward... Which will most likely be the leading factor in motivation for continuing/future breeders/store owners, as to whether or not they support EVO in their product line.

...So you want to be a dick, KhrysT?

Fine.

It seems I'm going to lose everything anyway (don't worry, we'll just add that to the total *scoffs*).  This road of power and abuse is all too familiar and I am sick of that shit.  

I am also really tired of having to kiss your ass to get simple questions answered in a very convoluted, confusing/omitting, and intimidating way.

Negative reinforcement does not make me have the reaction you'd like.

Abuse makes me very vocal.  

I am not a coward.

You will be held accountable for your footprint on ppl's souls.

And at least maybe this way some positive things will likely occur:

1) I can save people from wasting their money into an obvious, sinking ship
...Rita (who has prolly been muted in the EVO group as well) is VERY nice, & BTW, she makes Witches now - you should go check those out!

2) I can influence you to change things for the better regarding your customer service skills

3) Maybe then EVO will float and become something better than a sinking ship, so I will have done something for the ultimate and greater good by sharing

UPDATE:










I spoke with another EVO admin.  I will only share with you my replies, but you will get the general idea...




[19:53] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): You're in the EVO group as an admin, thought you would like to know what this is doing to everyone who was playing for a while

[19:55] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): Ok, sure, if you would like to explain, I will listen

[20:14] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): You are correct.  You are very quiet, and never offered to be friends (which is completely ok), so/but I then assumed all the business was done on KrysT's part.  I have also had his same gruff interactions with other CSRs, I was honestly afraid to take another chance of upsetting yet another CSR by "bothering" you (especially after having dumped so much $ into this).  ...Okay, even if we cut that total loss in half (for whatever factors, market fluctuation, etc.), it's still pretty hefty.  Yes, you can manipulate it and say those recipes were free... but really they weren't... They came from my purchase of the buildings... And why would I have done that, if I wasn't going to get anything out of it?  It would be one thing if you were selling clothing, but these are breedables.  This kind of reminds me of false advertising and a bit of the bait and switch, unintentional or not.  There ought to be a clause in any documentation EVO breeders get with all of your products, that EVO may change terms and conditions at any time for any reason and we would not hold you liable... So in other words, don't expect anything by buying EVO, other than for it to look pretty.  But then again, that wouldn't make you guys very much $, would it?  A CATWA head is L$5k.  Maitreya body a bit more... but not L$40k.  That's A LOT to spend for something to just look pretty in the end.  I'm honestly very disappointed.

[20:37] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): If you wanted to actually make this right, and you are committed 200%, then you would offer some type of loss compensation for the old recipes (that really worked fine, BTW).  KhrysT offered to replace up to 5 relics... Uhm... that's nice, but it's a mere drop in the bucket, really.  More like a drop in the well.  It's not just me who feels this way.  It's your longer more dedicated customers too.  You have really hit us below the belt here under the guise of "upgrades" and "improvements."  ...Maybe improvements for you, but not for us.  You forgot about the most important people, your clients (not customers, there's a difference).  And for KhrsT to eject me when I tried to ask about this, just goes to show your clients that what we think doesn't actually matter.  "Do as we say or else you lose your investment."  ...What a wonderful lasting impression to anyone actually involved in the breedable here.  Disrespectful.  Has motivation by fear ever worked in government, BTW?  Think about that.

[20:46] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): Okay, nice to have met you.  I appreciate your time.  I also appreciate your firm belief despite what is now occurring.  Actions speak louder than words.  Wish you well anyway

[20:47] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): You personally may be.  But if you don't have the power to influence the whole (which might be 80%+ KrysT), then really, it doesn't do much good until the long run... and by then, where will everyone have gone?

[21:15] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): I would agree with you that these changes will help the EVO second market grow via buying and selling collectibles & faes to other & new users.  I understand things change or evolve.  I would have been on board with you on that, had it simply been explained to me by someone trustworthy, in charge, patient, and (forgive me) can type coherent English so I'm not confused (and it doesn't cause more frustration from the admin) ...from the get-go.  The way this was done seems very, like, EVO saying "We don't trust our clients, let's give as little information as possible, under the guise of unexplainable improvements."  When if it was brought out onto the table, we would have more reassurance that everything would eventually be okay.  ...And perhaps more notice would have been appropriate too.  Or then we could have rationally talked about possible incentives/reparations productively, as a community, instead of this, that has been done now... where anyone who questions authority gets booted.  ...I am now officially EVO's scapegoat... KrysT blames my pointing out this $ loss knowledge to the fact that recipes will no longer be XFR (when these plans were most likely set in motion long before I said anything).  There's a difference between treating clientele like sheep or cows, and making them a part of your family... to which, the events had led me to believe in the better.  And I'm no Katniss Everdeen here, as there are LOTS of old-timers who are simply done with EVO now.  Does EVO simply say, "This is what's happening, like it or not," or does EVO say, "We need to change for the better, what does our community need?"



A couple days later I tried to contact that admin again:
[07:21] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): Hey, are you there?  I think I may have come up with an idea that benefits both EVO & their consumers...

[07:21] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): What if there was some sort of exchange... Where we could turn in the old recipes, to get something comparable in value, with this reincarnation of EVO?

[07:22] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): It encourages loyalty for the old-timers, as they are recognized... & it encourages newcomers with an incentive to stick around.


(G Clef  (terraoo7.winterwolf) said it would be discussed at the next meeting ...whenever that is ...And I'm sure that if they accept the idea, I will not be allowed to have anything to do with it & still be banned)

At that many hours later in the day, I was also trying to take care of getting the correct buildings, as the replacement ones were not Halloween themed, like I had originally purchased... as these had to be manually redelivered.

And I got this in nearby chat after all the hoopla of updating my buildings and finally getting a recipe:
[17:11] Library Regular Recipes: This avatar is Banned from EVO Systems!!! - Contact Ticket Support for more info.
So I did file a ticket for that too.

G Clef asked me to resubmit the tickets as they couldn't see them (so much for their partnership being 50/50).  So I did.  Waited about 15 minutes, expecting a response somewhere between then and now, finally asked if they could now see the tickets... and they had logged off!  ...So much for being in this 200%, like they said the other night too.

Saw they came back online, and asked...
[18:27] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): Ok, you're back online... can you at least see the tickets now?

(they said they thought the moderation team already responded to the tickets ...contradicting what we had just discussed moments ago)

[18:28] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): ...with indifference?

(silence)

[18:31] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): Your mannerisms have changed from when we spoke the other night.  I notice you're a lot colder now.  May I ask why?

(silence)

[18:34] ℳαʝɨҟᐺɨӽڠɳ (bluevioletvixen.lorefield): I guess the obvious answer is that everything EVO is a lie and a scam, and you're not allowed to admit that

(some excuse about RL, a reiteration that this was why I was banned, and then something along the lines that they're too good to talk to me anymore)


I can only tell you from experience (and my refusal to give in and create an alt) that:
A ban is a black mark.  Wear it with pride.  Especially if what you've been banned from has the audacity to have the judgment of God, the narrowmindedness of Hitler, and therefore the intelligence of a box of rocks.








Okay, at any rate...

This is going into our EVO products:




Dear valued customer,

EVO is a 3rd party, of which we have no control over.

We are very sorry, but we tried thoroughly to resolve any issues with them long ago.  They, unfortunately, seem to draw the line at having any professionalism or integrity, particularly with loyal customers like us.  This is why with the purchase of this EVO product, you agree to not hold any part of ^v^/<|;) (Bats Out Of Hats) liable for any type of malfunction for this EVO product.


Should you have an issue with your product not working, you need to contact one of the EVO administrators.  To do so, please copy the following line and paste it into nearby chat to get their clickable group link, to find who you need for support with their products:

secondlife:///app/group/e205dbfb-6d8f-aaa1-d8b5-a14d4776862c/about




You may also try filing a ticket with EVO from their website, however, we must caution you, that at this point, tickets do not get forwarded to your e-mail, and they have been known to be closed without any closure to the customer.

To make a ticket with EVO, last we heard, you will need to go to them inworld to register for their website login information.  This SLURL will be in their group information, and at this point in time, it reads as: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/REMOOD%20UNITED/94/211/24  You will need to touch the "EVO*Systems - Registry Ledger Ver.2018" object (funny that their equipment can be older than 2019, but not a breeder's) and follow the procedure for what happens next.

Once you have done all that, you may go to their website at https://www.evosl.com/#intro and log in.

From there, you will need to click "EVO Ticket Support" and we suggest filling out the following as such...

"Subject" can be "EVO Product Not Working"

"Message" can be filled in with details as to what product you have, what happens when you try to use it, and anything else pertinent.  You may also take screen-shots by using the "PRTSC" button on your PC (might be different for different computers, you may need to Google how to do this), then opening up your "Paint" application, then holding down the "CTRL" + "v" keys to paste your screen-shot into Paint.  Save this picture.  Then you may upload it to a picture hosting site, one we have found for free is http://freeimagehosting.net/ You can choose your file and upload the image.  You will get an HTML code generated.  You will want to look for the part of the code that says "<img src=" and copy that picture's link to put it into this ticket.  It may look something like this:  https://i.imgur.com/wTIMlYo.jpg

"Department" should be "MC Fairies, Buildings & Games."

"Product Name" will be the name of the product you get by right-clicking on it inworld, & selecting "Edit."  The "Name" will be in the build window next to "Name:."  You may highlight the text in the "Name:" portion, right-click it, and select "Copy."  You may then go back to the EVO website and right-click the fill-in spot for "Product Name" and select "Paste" to fill it in.

"Product Version" will usually be listed in the name, as discussed in the above paragraph.

"PET ID Code" usually applies to fairies, and is usually listed in the "Name:" portion of the build/edit window, as discussed above, if not in the "Description:" part of the build/edit window.

If they fail to work with you within a reasonable amount of time (3 days is pretty reasonable for any response), you may file an abuse report.  Here is more information on that (and we will also help you walk through this process, if you keep reading): https://community.secondlife.com/knowledgebase/english/filing-an-abuse-report-r25/

To report abuse, go to "Help" at the top of your viewer menu, and select "Report Abuse."  Keep in mind that whatever you see on your screen at that moment, will provide LL with a picture in this report... so make sure you are able to capture anything necessary regarding the failure of their product.

We then suggest selecting "Fraud> L$ or USD $."  Place an EVO administrator's name into the "Abuser name" section.

For "Location of abuse" we also suggest putting in the SLURL of their mainstore, currently listed on their group profile as: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/REMOOD%20UNITED/94/211/24

For "Summary" we suggest "EVO Breedable Recipe Not Working," or perhaps, if even more EVO products have broken, you may make a similar summary to those other products.

Then make sure to fill in the "Details" as to what happened when you tried to use this recipe and it didn't work, which EVO administrators you tried to contact, & whatever they said (if applicable).





AND HERE'S SOMETHING I LEARNED IN GAMING 101:

These pre-2019 EVO items are a piece of history.  They will obviously not be made anymore, so they will become extremely rare.  Therefore, these can only go up in value.  ...Should there be fans (or Mark David Chapmans) of SL or EVO, these recipes will be like the kings in broken temples of ancient Egyptian pyramids... revered and preserved (after the masses and ages have destroyed most of them ... and after the industries have made too many Beauty & The Beast flicks and diluted the original).  Your true fandom and dedication will be determined if you actually know what one of these are, who originally made them, and oOoOooOoo, if you actually HAVE one!  ...So in yer face ironically, you neo-side-step dancing EVO fucks!  LMFAO!

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The Best Things in [Second] Life Are Free!

So, success...

Lilith and Samael of Zamargad achieved their goal of packing up countless prims and pieces of their homestead sim, logging all the building coordinates, downsizing to the smallest parcel on Zamargad (where our store used to be), and making the ground not only palatable for possible neighbors (but us as well)!  ZI is phenomenal!

We even followed thru on honoring our Dedicated Batling Promotion, and updated the webby a bit too.

I've also been working really hard lately to try and make some L$ in SL because of my current RL financial budget.  I diligently spent all day playing Alienum to make at least L$200!

...But wouldn't you know I had to take a break and go to Toady's awesome scripting class?  I didn't even know such a wonderful building teacher (of almost 12 years) would let us in on such trade secrets!  And just between you and me, Toady never turns away a student for lack of funds.  That's a REAL teacher, someone who leads by example with virtue.

My ♥ to you, Toady!

And after that, my awesome friend, Beth Odets, just happened to be doing a show with Bat Masters (and some other lady I'm not too familiar with, sorry)!  WheEeEe!!  Bethie is my hero!  I love all of her songs, but I particularly love "Pinnochio" and "Meaty White Stallion" LOL!

...Now I asked Beth if it would be okay to go to her show to support her, even tho I really don't have any L$ for a tip.  At first, I got a typical facetious Beth answer of something like, "What?  You have no money?  No, you mean nothing to me now!  ...LOL."  But she reassured me like a million times, that if it ever got to be that bad, all I had to do was ask her and she'd even give me some L$ to tip the venue.  ...I'm just so very, like, "wow," and grateful for all the wonderful and kind friends I have in SL!

And you know something?  I'm very glad I went.  Because Simon Linden decided to show up again!  And he fucking sat right next to me OMG!!!

And although I'm pretty sure it was to sit somewhere and maybe control lag... We still smokem peace pipe together, wewt!

I've touched his hat before, but I had to do it again!  LOL

Not only that, but I studied his profile again.

He likes DarkStar too!  That's what inspired my butterfly dome!  

...Too bad that place is gone now(?), OMG, I just found that out when I saw the "Loading..." pick of it in his profile!  *inserts a HUGE sad face here*

It's weird seeing a Linden, like almost seeing the president or the king or something!  Here's a pic of him actually walking on water (LMAO, at the Surfside Hideaway)!  But I know that for real, he probably just goes to shows to relax and unwind.  Maybe be more at one with the residents.  We all laughed together, and had a great time.

Afterward, I was inspired to visit Denby.  I found all kinds of fun things at his house there, like a "SL Population Meter" that I was able to snag a copy of... A funny object that counted the mere time someone last mentioned "Sansar" ...And even found myself on a "Simon Linden Bear" hunt!

I tell you what... hunting for that rare bear took me to a few different awesome places, and I REALLY enjoyed that hunt very, very much!  

So I wanted to let you know that it is worth it.  There are definitely priceless things you can find for free in SL.  It's not all about snobbery, money, and tunnel vision.  It's about the spirit of things.  You just have to know where to look for these treasures.  

...But I still don't know how I got so lucky...  Thank you!  ♥

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Zamargad Charged By Isis: The Remodeling Interim

Yes, some things have changed on Zamargad... as well as our store, ^v^/<|;) (Bats Out Of Hats)... and our home, 1181 Cheshire Smile.

I guess you are entitled to an explanation.






















Back on 08DEC16, Samael and I acquired a sim/region.  I paid $150 to change "Vita Nova" to "Zamargad."  On Thursday the 16th of February, we had our grand opening party.  A "Thank-You Scrapbook" was available to thumb thru inworld, and is also available for free on the MP.

On the weekend of 20MAY17, we had a gala event with Treasure Quest (featuring a photo contest), and were able to get more images for our Zamargad brochure (that started out on ASNers as "Postcards From Zamargad").

Granny Zia Sophia (zia.branner) took the winning picture that became the featured portrait for our claim in the Destination Guide.  On 20APR18, Brett Melnrick, Editorial Staff of Second Life's DG, placed Zamargad under "Experiences" in Second Life's DG (due to all the hidden clickable adventures).

On 30MAY18, we built our website all about everything Zamargad (and essentially, us).


Zamargad has always consisted of 3 parcels:

1) "1181 Cheshire Smile" which was where we had our public pumpkin house.

2) "^v^/<|;) (Bats Out Of Hats)" which was our store parcel (featuring our store, our advertising skybox, and LGH Fish Hunt supplies).

3) "Zamargad" which was our largest portion of land dedicated to our dark fae theme and breedables (PlantPets, KittyCatS!, Amaretto Horses, & EVO Fairies).




Now let me back-track a bit here, before I go any further...

I have certainly had a most interesting and adventurous kind of [real] life involving health/development.  It took me a long time to get to where I am now, and the hard work isn't exactly over by any means.

It took a lot of fighting and growing to get my own place to live, what turned into a long-standing career (that is still occurring, thankfully), and to learn how to build credit.  I was finally doing it, tho.  I was being a responsible and successful adult.



I guess you could say that this mess started with a painting.

I was at a festival and fell in love with this artwork.  The artist agreed to accept monthly payments of $100 for 5 months.  Shortly thereafter, I finally succeeded in having something nice to show for my life.

I did lots of little things like that successfully.


Then in 2015, I was not happy with my life because important social things were not going very well.  And when I think negatively, you can rest assured that I do it very thoroughly.  I went from being a size 16 to a size 8 in just a few months.  My hair even started to fall out.  I just did not see the point of participating in humanity anymore.

One repeating thought kept happening... I regretted having crashed my very first car and first F-Body Camaro, Marigold, back when I was 16 or so.  ...Never get a nice car as your first car, you're just too inexperienced and will regret having fucked it up in any way.  Furthermore, do not take that insurance money and chase that dream half-assed.  You will regret that car and what happens to it too.  No good deed goes unpunished.

I wanted something major to feel deathly proud of and show for my life, now.  ...If everything else was "going to be a failure," I'd be damned if I'd continue letting it be...  I was going to take charge and do things over again, correctly this motherfucking time...!


So yeah, I decided to buy what they call "a midlife crisis" car.  My thoughts at the time were that I not only damn well earned it, but that I already knew how to prove myself financially and could handle it.

I had cashed out my stocks (taxes withheld, of course) that I had saved for about 7 years to do so, and took out a 5-year loan to pay for any repairs.

It was fate.  On 08JUN15, I bought my daughter, Isis, my 3rd F-Body Camaro.  Hitched a ride with my Marine co-worker buddy and his friend to the neighboring state.  Paid cash for a bit of a discount.  Had the most fun drive home.  Entered a car show, learned a lot.  She makes my life worth living and is the only reason I go on.

And although my daughter is strong, we all eventually deteriorate.  I will explain to you more in a bit, why I have made the decision to go back to college and study auto mechanics.


So...

•You need credit to have a credit score, which will determine how much you will get fucked or not when you try to buy/rent major necessary life things like a car, house, etc.  A score of 800 is perfect, the higher your score is and the closer you are to it, the less you will get fucked and the more you will be taken seriously.  At 850, you become a God.

•You can get a prepaid credit card from your bank for such small limits like $300, though the interest may be quite expensive (the lower the percentage is, the better - which, incidentally, also comes by having a higher credit score).  ...I still have my first card, I use it for online purchases in case some asswipe tries to steal/use it without my knowledge, then they won't get very far, LOL.

•Not using a credit card will give you no credit, which is worse than having bad credit.  Just make reasonable, small, affordable purchases on your card (like gas) and then pay them off right away the next month (or at least pay more than the minimum balance).

•There are 3 credit bureaus: Equifax, Experian, and Transunion.  You may check your credit report once a year without doing any damage to your score... otherwise, sign up with Credit Karma to so do more frequently.  And yes, every time some major financial organization runs your credit report (like when you are applying for another card), your score will lower a bit.

•If you find anything negative on your report, like bills having gone to collections... Call that stupid place and pay them off ASAP.  Then you can dispute their note on your report, and it will go the fuck away.

•When you get a loan, make sure it's for something very important and absolutely necessary... Because, by end of the loan, whatever bill you needed to pay, you will discover that you have paid for that shit twice.

•When your debt becomes 65% of your income or more... even if you are making the minimum payments on time and incur no penalties, your credit score will lower.



...And now we have come to my predicament...

I have 15 months left on that loan.  I get gov't benefits and work, but it is still not enough.  I have continually been cashing out my stocks every 6 months to a year, as a contingency fund of sorts (which makes my tax ppl very upset, as it should really be used as a secondary retirement account), but even that is still not enough.  Samael has his own personal/financial responsibilities that cannot afford more than this remodeling interim, for the time being ...But I do want to thank him very much for recording/returning those last prims to me, that were just too heartbreaking for me to do.

And to be honest, this wasn't all completely Isis's fault (I'll absolutely die before I ever sell her, especially after all this ... Not even kidding, all the naysayers can absolutely go fuck themselves, hard).  ...My old apartment dropped the ball on their tax credit paperwork, and in 2016, my rent got raised $200 more a month, out of nowhere.  The Federal gov't didn't do anything about it until 2018, and it was just by chance that cheaper/alternative housing was offered to a group of ppl housed in that place, by that original program.  I took the advice of my co-workers, on a very small chance, and fled as fast as I could onto something better in RL.  ...It was actually because of Isis that I ended up in a much better living situation, including her own personal garage!

So I have to think of priorities now.  This is "do or die."  Something has to give.  And unfortunately, even that may not be enough...  Coupons, low-income benefits, food pantries,  it's all still not enough to barely keep me from eventually declaring bankruptcy.

It breaks me to the core that I have to give up most of my [interactive] art for a bit.  This is the only art I do now (I gave it up altogether for at least a couple of decades), and to have to give it up again is not only embarrassing, but I hope not crippling.  In fact, when I was 16, I had plans to go to Otis, they believed in me (by sending me a direct invitation) because I am that talented ...But it didn't pan out because I stupidly chose love instead (which was a fucking mistake and I will absolutely never hear the end of it from the ppl I have spawned from).  Not only that, but I was burned out on having gone to college since 11, and not being allowed to abandon that local college until I achieved my transferable AA (no financial aid until 25, and the ppl I spawned from knew better).  Just a small part of PTSD in early life trauma.  ...It's alright tho, nobody will hire a 40-year old commercial artist now anyway.

I'm, however, okay with this having shaped who I am today.  I think that's why I am mostly successful at my job that I love so much, and have been at for most of the outstanding part of my life.  I have grabbed life by the balls and have become a badass ninja, who works with a bunch of funny guys, who role model exceptionally cut-throat/realistic/respectable/honorable approaches ... + sailor accents, LOL.

And rather than become a cash-cow again to another mechanic, who typically seem to prey upon women... It is clear that I need to study auto mechanics to take care of myself and my daughter  .....If you want something done right anyway, do it your goddamned self!



SO THIS IS THE REALITY OF ZAMARGAD NOW:

•Zamargad sim is not going anywhere.  We are not going anywhere.  ZoHa Islands is not going anywhere.  We are not leaving ZI.  ^v^/<|;) (Bats Out Of Hats is still on the Marketplace.

•We are downsizing to the smallest parcel, on Zamarad.  In the same parcel area that ^v^/<|;) (Bats Out Of Hats) used to be, to keep customer and visitor confusion to a minimal.

•Plans are to only be downsized for about 15 months, from March of 2019.  Afterward, we will then buy back the rest of Zamargad and go back to normal.  Should be fairly simple as everything has been logged and recorded into inventories.

•This smallest parcel can barely afford the prims of all the breedable stock we need to stay afloat in SL...  So should you need to see one of our regular items inworld before purchase, feel free to contact me, Lilith, or Samael, and we will gladly accommodate via sandbox.

•Advertisors have been refunded for their remaining times (rounded up) and have been given the opportunity to advertise with us for free on our website during this time.

•"Win L$100 Just For Being A Batling Fan! / Dedicated Batling Promo" will still happen.  ASNers has moved to Facebook (everything is still getting sorted, there).  We have L$700 to give away in total prizes for September 2018 - March 2019 (we apologize for RL holding us hostage): L$100 for each of those randomly drawn residents who have any part of Zamargad in the picks section of their profile, as well as being a part of our ^v^/<|;) (Bats Out Of Hats) group in SL.  ...After downsizing is completed, names will not be drawn until we regain the rest of Zamargad back, however, we will then have at least 15 prizes to give away when we do come back (L$1,500 in total prizes - which increase the chances that your name will be drawn).  To still qualify for getting yourself in this drawing/promo (after the downsize, and before our eventual regain of Zamargad), you will need to have our "Zamargad Charged By Isis: The Remodeling Interim" parcel in your picks section as well as be a member of our free group.  Those who have never deleted their original picks and are still in our group, of course, will still qualify too!

As for me...
I will be okay.  This too shall pass.  I have a good, long relationship with ZI, and am very grateful for them working with us during this time to keep a dream.  I also have my son, Eddy.  True friends, too.  Some breedables to take care of and sell while playing L$ earning games like Alienum.  Probably hang out at EOD to make a little extra L$.  And will continue on in RL unpacking into my new house, going on with my career that I love, and continue to do the best I can to take care of my daughter.



We wish you well, and hope you are confident that we are not going anywhere.  We are fighters and die hards.  We are still Zamargad.  You are still our friends, Batlings, neighbors, and inspiration.  We are all in SL (and first life) together.  We appreciate your understanding and support very much.  ♥

^v^

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